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The title speaks for itself.

More information on the “Sharia lashing”.

It is now believed that unpaid debts, not alcohol consumption, was the reason for the lashing.


Man accused of sharia law assault called bin Laden ‘soldier of God’

“A MUSLIM man who once called Osama bin Laden a ”soldier of God” participated in a brutal flogging of a man to impose his religious beliefs and his standing in the Islamic community, police have alleged in court…”


“Muslim groups condemned the attack, saying it was misguided if motivated by sharia law. Kuranda Seyit, the executive director of the Forum on Australia’s Islamic Relations, said it condemned criminal actions in the name of religion.

” ‘Anyone who takes the law into their own hands will be dealt with by the Australian judicial system,” he said. ”If these men did what is alleged, then they have no understanding of sharia and should be discouraged.’ ”

Well, that’s good to hear.   I do think that Muslims are supposed to abide by the laws of the non-Muslim lands that they are living in.  (But I also think they are supposed to try to get the laws changed as much as possible to coincide with Sharia, at the very least for their own community.)

But whether this crime of lashing was committed as retribution for not paying debts, or as a Sharia punishment for breaking the Islamic rule against drinking (which I consider to be the more evil of the two motivations), it is a bizarre  and serious criminal assault, and it sounds like the police are taking it seriously, as they should.

Why do I consider the religious motivation to be the more evil possibility?  Because it is a violation of the victim’s rights for having made a personal decision that harms no one.  Non-payment of debts is at least a violation of one’s ethical obligations and *is* harmful to one’s creditor.   But there are legal ways to collect, and physical attack is not an option.

It’s also possible that the lashing was motivated by the combination of the unpaid debts and the fact that the guy had a few drinks with friends.  Finding out that he’s out drinking like a kafir (and spending money on sin instead of saving money to pay his debts) might have been the ‘straw that broke the camels back’.  Or maybe the guy is a drunk and behaves badly when drinking.   As Prodos suggested to me yesterday, maybe while he was drinking he felt up somebody’s Muslim sister.

Anyhow, time will tell us more…

Follow-up story from February, 2013

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Sharia Law Lashing

I am extremely interested to see what happens with this case – how the legal system deals with it, how local Muslims respond to it.

A recent convert to Islam (whose name allegedly is “Christian”,  funnily enough), woke in his bedroom to find four Muslim men from his Mosque standing over him, and they proceeded to hold him down and lash him with an electrical cord for about  half-an-hour.

One article says that “Representatives of Sydney’s Muslim community have condemned the attack.”  But it doesn’t say who those representatives were or what they said about it.

This is the kind of thing that is alarming those Australians who worry about making any kind of concessions to Sharia law in the West.  At present, some Muslims are asking for parts of Sharia to be allowed for Muslims in  non-Muslim countries, such as parts of Sharia family law and Sharia finance.  Some countries already allow this.

I need to do more research on the subject.  But I’m leery of making concessions to Sharia.  Proceed with caution.

It’s a worry that these four Muslim fellas felt free to mete out this punishment.  I wonder if they’ve done this before to Muslims born to the religion, who would be less likely to rat on them to the police because of family pressures?

I am aware that not all Muslims in the modern world want to live under Sharia (but from what I’ve read of the primary books of Islam, that’s not very Muslim of them).  What is likely to happen if your non-Muslim society has a growing number of the Sharia-upholding Muslims coming to live?   People who believe they SHOULD be living under Sharia, and who are willing and ready to take Sharia law into their own hands and defy the law of the non-Muslim land for the sake of Allah?  How long will they tolerate not being able to live under Allah’s laws?  And will they just go home to a Sharia land, or keep trying to change things in the land of the kafir, bit by bit?  If they don’t get their way, what will they do?

In the case at hand, will the law actually prosecute the four who flogged the newbie against his will?   If so, will the radical Muslims use it as a test case to push for ‘multicultural’  and ‘tolerant’ bending of Australian law in this matter?  Will the four – including the middle-aged man – get leniency because of the religious beliefs involved?  Or will they be treated like any Australian who broke into someone’s house, held him down, and beat him with an electrical cord?

And if they are treated just like any other Australian, what will other Muslim radicals do?   Will there be a publicly-viewable schism between the Sharia Muslims and their Westernized brethren over this case?

Below are my two sources for the lashing story.

Man charged over ‘sharia law’ lashing

Men charged over Sharia law lashing

Follow-up story, February 2013

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Robert Tracinski

Ah-HA! I was just wishing that a recent article published in TIA Daily, which is an e-mail magazine by subscription, was available to the public online for free because I think it should be widely read. And guess what! The author of the article, Robert Tracinski (who is also the editor of TIA Daily), is allowing a few of his articles to be published online for free, and that article is one of them!

Please read The Suicide Bomb Morality.

Also, please have a look at this one: Publish or Perish: The Lessons of the Cartoon Jihad.

And thank you, Rob, for offering some ofyour eye-opening articles to the world at large!

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Al-Afif al-Akhdar, Another Courageous Arab

In my campaign to celebrate those who risk everything to uphold liberty, I give you Al-afif al-Akhdar. This man has been on the job long time.

The Roots of Jihad

I’ll write more about this when I have time.

Thanks to the Egyptian Sandmonkey for posting excerpts from “The Roots of Jihad” on his blog. “Rantings of a Sandmonkey” has been a great portal for me into the Arab world, where I can find those Arab champions of reason and liberty that I’ve been hoping for.

* * * * *Comment added March 21, 2006: I wrote the above post before I finished reading that very long article on Akhdar. I planned to finish reading the article (after having read Sandmonkey’s excepts and the first part of “The Roots of Jihad”) and then write about my thoughts on it when I had time. But I was so excited by what I had already read, I wanted to post a link to the article right away.

I’ve now finished reading the article, and I’m disappointed that Akhdar criticizes capitalism and upholds socialism. Continue reading

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Akbar Ganji Freed

Akbar Ganji is an Iranian journalist. He wrote a series of articles accusing Iranian Intelligence Ministry agents of killing five pro-reform writers, and as a result he was sentenced to six years of prison, much of that in solitary confinement.

He has served his full six years and is now free. Free and not cowed by his punishment. Akbar Ganji is one of those rare courageous heroes who deserve our admiration and celebration.

Here are a couple of articles revealing Ganji’s enourmous courage and dedication to liberty. If every lover of liberty had this courage, we’d live in a free world.

Freed Iranian Journalist Remains Defiant

Iranian Dissident Released from Jail

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Jyllands-Posten does it again!

… Not to mention people like Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Irshad Manji, Salman Rushdie, and nine others.

Jyllands-Posten, the Danish paper that published the 12 Mohammed cartoons, has now published, online, a manifesto signed by 12 courageous writers/journalists/intellectuals. (Hmmm… 12 and 12. Is that a coincidence?)

MANIFESTO: Together Facing the New Totalitarianism

Most of the signers are already under the death threat from Islamists and continue to demonstrate their courage for the sake of liberty.

I hope the major newspapers around the world emulate the guts and the backbone that Jyllands-Posten has displayed in supporting these people, and may J-P stand firm and strong and get heaps of support and customers!

Twelve cheers for Jyllands-Posten and the Manifesto signers!

And don’t forget… BUY DANISH! *8 : )

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Wal-Mart a Threat to Christianity?!!!

Oh, this has GOT to be a joke!

No. I’m afraid it’s not.

Freedom to Shop

One religious group wants to ban cartoons of The Prophet, and now another claims that the presence of a Wal-Mart in their midst will interfere with their spirituality.

At least these Wal-mart (and K-Mart and Target and etc.?) banning Christians aren’t rioting and burning automobiles. But have the anti-cartooner Muslims inspired these anti-consumer Christians to try a similarly controlling, if non-violent, manipulation in the name of their religious sensitivities?

This is just bizarre.

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